An e-mail dialogue that shows how beginners relate to, and pick up, immunics

  
This dialogue happened in the Cure Drive.

The e-mails are in reverse order.
     
Here are the e-mails:

   
My two cents: I also have Reiki degrees up till 3A and when I started doing the tutorials I got the tingling feeling in my hands, same as i have when I give or send Reiki. But no clear yes/no, an ongoing tingling.

Then I started listening to Cure Shows, and when I was listening to the third or so and not paying to much attention to my hands, all of a sudden i was testing along with the Show. I would think having done Reiki would make it easier because then you are used to sensations happening to/in your hands where about you have no control.

Love, Esther

Meredith wrote:

Stephanie, this is for you by way of encouragement.

I also am a Reiki practitioner. I also am having a tough time learning to test. There is another Reiki person on the cure drive who had to work on it for 4 months before she got a twitch. I don't think it is necessarly the Reiki background that causes this problem. I think (I have tested that) there are probably several reasons. It could be that you are switched for some reason. I have been working on this now for two and a half months. I am beginning to get a response part of the time.

Certain things seem to unswitch me, like physical exercise, going to church, etc. Have you practiced stating things you want? That helps a lot of people. I started by getting energy feelings in my palm chakras when I would connect. I had to practice for a long time to be able to differentiate these feelings with small twitches I get when the testing is working. They are not whole fingers, but single muscle twitches. I also get strong surges into my fingers that feel like they are going to move, but don't.

There are other things that can get you switched like certain pathologies, e.g., nutritional deficiencies, trauma, agreements, immune dysfunctions like needing to be in control. I have discovered these things by searching and studying on the web site. They have all helped, so I am not giving up! By the way, I think criticizing the text book or the curriculum when one is having trouble learning something is some kind of dysfunction. I forget what. I think this because it has been one of mine, also.

Cure that and you may start to test more reliably. Hope this helps.

Love,
Meredith

Bayard wrote:

Hey, thanks, Stephanie. I was waiting for somebody to write in about this.

Yes, the fact that there are grades in this college probably does turn off quite a few newbies. Our dropout rate has been running close to our signup rate. Unfortunately there's nothing I can do about it, since I have nothing to do with assigning the grades. I just point out that they exist.

Let's say you go through your MRI or your blood test and your cancer or HIV is worse -- that's a grade.

Did your disease assign the grade? Did you assign the grade to yourself? Did God, the doctor who prescribed the test, Santa Claus? Does it matter where the grade comes from? The grade is here, staring you in the face in the form of your test result -- you blew it.

Immunics is about performing instantaneous yogic actions in the moment as you feel the need -- and feeling the need can be when you get one of these bad grades. Sometimes the grade is just a bad feeling. Yes, a bad feeling can mean that you blew it, or that you never even tried in the first place. The grades are actually helpful, if you're into accepting help. The grades will help you set direction. A grade can be the moment when you're told it's time to do something.

This is not for everybody; immunics, grades, yogic actions, curing stuff. Most people don't cure anything: it runs its course, they die of it, it cripples them, whatever. While that's happening they employ spiritual panaceas, read inspirational books, and do things that comfort them. They listen to what they want to hear, and try at all costs to avoid hearing anything that might upset them. Well, you can't blame them for that -- something that upsets them might make them sicker! They can't cure, so they better at least stay away from anything that makes it worse, right? Like, for example reality.

This is for people who like reality, and action, and choose to do what's necessary. You for example, are having difficulty learning to test. I can tell you how to get where you need to go with it -- get a study group together and have everybody learn to test; somewhere in there you will pick it up, as you watch them. Oh, you don't want to do that? Haven't got any friends? No time? Don't believe that will work? Looks like you're on your way to flunking.

What can I do about this? Nothing. What do I want to do about it? Nothing.

I like free will, and being around people who operate from their own free will. I like leading the horse to water, not trying to make it drink. Making the horse drink takes too much work and effort, and it doesn't drink anyway.

So I let the newbies drop off the list.

I don't mean to be caustic with you Stephanie, because I happen to really like you, and I enjoyed your friendly e-mail. I hope you make it. I like Reiki Masters too, and I bet you'll be a great immuner, once you get going.

But getting you going might actually involve me getting immunics on the Oprah Winfrey show, because if you don't get a group in which to teach yourself immunics together -- you don't like social learning situations -- maybe the only way you're actually going to start getting your confirming signals will be TO SEE 60 PEOPLE CURING CANCER, OR HERPES, ON TELEVISION. And yes, confirming signals are very important, because they're the way that you CHECK that you did the yogic action that cures the cancer, herpes, or HIV, whatever, and if you don't learn to get those confirming signals and just try to do the actions without them, well, it's just more of a sure thing if you can check that you did the immunic actions with those confirming signals.

The "grading" thing is metaphorical, of course.

There is nobody to give you a grade, except maybe you. If you half stop a flu, and you realize you only went half way, assign yourself a "grade" and get back in there and TRY to do better -- the nice thing about immunics is that you can just keep going, the grades aren't final, even the ones you assign yourself -- AND DO BETTER, you've done a good thing. You've struck a blow for global immunity.

Isn't that what this is about? -- Global immunity?

We're making ourselves as great as we can be, because other people are depending on us to do that. And they don't know they are. They never even heard of this. But it's more likely that they'll hear of it, learn it, cure something with it, pass it on, if we're exemplary.

And in this case it helps if we develop a real appreciation for whatever diseases we're trying to battle because at least those diseases come along and slap you in the face, which may wake you up when you're asleep at the wheel. The slap will wake you up IF YOU LIKE REALITY. And if you do like reality, and you allow the slap to wake you up, you might want to at least say, "thanks; I needed that" to those diseases before you kill them.

Have a good day, Stephanie. I hope you've learned to get those confirming signals by the time you get this e-mail.

You might try just back-channeling to some of the people on the list in the Cure Drive, and ask them to meet you on the telephone, and see if you can get a confirming signal in that context. You'd need it least two others with you. The hardest thing in the world to do is to get people together at the same time, but you want to try, because that's a good way to move yourself forward.

Are there some people in the Cure Drive who you like? You've been reading their e-mail, so maybe some pop out at you as great people.

Always pick the best people to bond with.

Your loving and supportive friend,

The Buz

At 11:43 PM 12/2/2004, you wrote:

Hi Bayard,

I am curious what you (and others) would test regarding this statement, taken from the Yo Newbie letter.

"There are grades in this college, though we don't give them to you. God does. In this grading system, F is physical death, D is being disfigured or crippled........ " etc.

Maybe to some people it doesn't read exactly as it was intended ........ Maybe it was said more light-heartedly or figuratively than it comes across.
But I can't help but think that the statement is turning some newbies off when they read it.

It sounded to me, when I read that as a newbie, like fear-based or shame-based motivation........ It also sounded like it was painting a picture of a condemnational God. (Wouldn't have been as bad if it had read "though we don't give them to you. You give them to yourself.")

Perhaps the comment will test as being fine .......... But I want to make sure that we are not chasing off some good people, when we might avoid that by re-wording it.

I sent a message more-or-less to this effect a couple of weeks ago to the main list but never got a response. So maybe you already tested on it, I don't know.

Thanks very much, and Best wishes,

Stephanie
p.s. Is there a condition which could be called "attached to results"? Or
something similar? Or maybe the comment implied to me "lack of permission" (to die, to be disfigured, whatever..........) I'm tossing out various thoughts about what exactly it was that bothered me about the statement.......

By the way, I have still not developed a dependable confirming signal. Unable to master Skill Zero. :-( I wonder if somehow it is related to the Reiki/energy work I have done --- ? I would be very interested to hear what you could access about that. Thanks